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		<title>By: lego</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>lego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lego</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-2540</link>
		<dc:creator>lego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: memphoman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator>memphoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian. The presentation was perfect. It was a pleasure meeting you at newmodes, and if you&#039;re in Memphis again, I&#039;ll let you drive my old Porsche 911 and see what that brand experience is all about first-hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian. The presentation was perfect. It was a pleasure meeting you at newmodes, and if you&#39;re in Memphis again, I&#39;ll let you drive my old Porsche 911 and see what that brand experience is all about first-hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-2538</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian. The presentation was perfect. It was a pleasure meeting you at newmodes, and if you&#039;re in Memphis again, I&#039;ll let you drive my old Porsche 911 and see what that brand experience is all about first-hand. 

-michael guthrie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian. The presentation was perfect. It was a pleasure meeting you at newmodes, and if you&#8217;re in Memphis again, I&#8217;ll let you drive my old Porsche 911 and see what that brand experience is all about first-hand. </p>
<p>-michael guthrie</p>
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		<title>By: kalisurfer</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-929</link>
		<dc:creator>kalisurfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yeah i believe you&#039;re talking about Frito Lay&#039;s Net Zero initiative.  If you subscribe to the model that brands should be more human like, it&#039;s totally ok to demonstrate a few personality traits or occupations.  The caveat is, that one traits shouldn&#039;t conflict or be in opposition to each other.   In this case you can certainly be a prankster and be environmentally conscious (just look at Ashton Kutcher).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where the danger lies, as past cases have shown (Unilever with Dove vs. Axe), is that if another brand within your companies portfolio strays from that occupation or conflicts with, consumers will call you out on it.   Credibility a commodity not often associated with marketing is a key construct of brands today.  Without it regardless of what platforms brands are utilizing, their messaging will be seen as advertising and thus ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>Yeah i believe you&#39;re talking about Frito Lay&#39;s Net Zero initiative.  If you subscribe to the model that brands should be more human like, it&#39;s totally ok to demonstrate a few personality traits or occupations.  The caveat is, that one traits shouldn&#39;t conflict or be in opposition to each other.   In this case you can certainly be a prankster and be environmentally conscious (just look at Ashton Kutcher).</p>
<p>Where the danger lies, as past cases have shown (Unilever with Dove vs. Axe), is that if another brand within your companies portfolio strays from that occupation or conflicts with, consumers will call you out on it.   Credibility a commodity not often associated with marketing is a key construct of brands today.  Without it regardless of what platforms brands are utilizing, their messaging will be seen as advertising and thus ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sean,&lt;br&gt;Branching off your holistic vs singleton point above, I&#039;m curious to hear what you think about the juxtaposition of Frito Lay&#039;s sustainability initiatives and the prankster ethos it&#039;s crafting for Cheetos. Do people see a conflict between social responsibility and social mischief, or is that reading too much into it? All I know is, the challenges faced by the big, house-of-brand corporations are pretty intense when viewed through the lens you and Adrian are helping to create for our industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sean,<br />Branching off your holistic vs singleton point above, I&#39;m curious to hear what you think about the juxtaposition of Frito Lay&#39;s sustainability initiatives and the prankster ethos it&#39;s crafting for Cheetos. Do people see a conflict between social responsibility and social mischief, or is that reading too much into it? All I know is, the challenges faced by the big, house-of-brand corporations are pretty intense when viewed through the lens you and Adrian are helping to create for our industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-2536</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael,

Yeah i believe you&#039;re talking about Frito Lay&#039;s Net Zero initiative.  If you subscribe to the model that brands should be more human like, it&#039;s totally ok to demonstrate a few personality traits or occupations.  The caveat is, that one traits shouldn&#039;t conflict or be in opposition to each other.   In this case you can certainly be a prankster and be environmentally conscious (just look at Ashton Kutcher).

Where the danger lies, as past cases have shown (Unilever with Dove vs. Axe), is that if another brand within your companies portfolio strays from that occupation or conflicts with, consumers will call you out on it.   Credibility a commodity not often associated with marketing is a key construct of brands today.  Without it regardless of what platforms brands are utilizing, their messaging will be seen as advertising and thus ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>Yeah i believe you&#8217;re talking about Frito Lay&#8217;s Net Zero initiative.  If you subscribe to the model that brands should be more human like, it&#8217;s totally ok to demonstrate a few personality traits or occupations.  The caveat is, that one traits shouldn&#8217;t conflict or be in opposition to each other.   In this case you can certainly be a prankster and be environmentally conscious (just look at Ashton Kutcher).</p>
<p>Where the danger lies, as past cases have shown (Unilever with Dove vs. Axe), is that if another brand within your companies portfolio strays from that occupation or conflicts with, consumers will call you out on it.   Credibility a commodity not often associated with marketing is a key construct of brands today.  Without it regardless of what platforms brands are utilizing, their messaging will be seen as advertising and thus ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-2535</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sean,
Branching off your holistic vs singleton point above, I&#039;m curious to hear what you think about the juxtaposition of Frito Lay&#039;s sustainability initiatives and the prankster ethos it&#039;s crafting for Cheetos. Do people see a conflict between social responsibility and social mischief, or is that reading too much into it? All I know is, the challenges faced by the big, house-of-brand corporations are pretty intense when viewed through the lens you and Adrian are helping to create for our industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sean,<br />
Branching off your holistic vs singleton point above, I&#8217;m curious to hear what you think about the juxtaposition of Frito Lay&#8217;s sustainability initiatives and the prankster ethos it&#8217;s crafting for Cheetos. Do people see a conflict between social responsibility and social mischief, or is that reading too much into it? All I know is, the challenges faced by the big, house-of-brand corporations are pretty intense when viewed through the lens you and Adrian are helping to create for our industry.</p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting! I agree, there are lots of companies who have changed very little about how they operate but who have made great strides in becoming more open and collaborative from a branding standpoint. I think some of the ones you mention, Harley, Ernst &amp; Young, haven&#039;t really been faced with a disruptive competitor in their category that has fully embraced the idea of being a modern brand in the Zappos/Method kind of way. Therefore, they appear to be the most modern of the pack and can achieve success without making really fundamental changes. I think that they are vulnerable to a new entrant who decides to do things differently. Think about Virgin entering these two categories, I think they&#039;d find it fairly easy to make both the above brands feel old, closed and stale. This isn&#039;t to take anything away from either of these companies as they are clearly successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting! I agree, there are lots of companies who have changed very little about how they operate but who have made great strides in becoming more open and collaborative from a branding standpoint. I think some of the ones you mention, Harley, Ernst &#038; Young, haven&#39;t really been faced with a disruptive competitor in their category that has fully embraced the idea of being a modern brand in the Zappos/Method kind of way. Therefore, they appear to be the most modern of the pack and can achieve success without making really fundamental changes. I think that they are vulnerable to a new entrant who decides to do things differently. Think about Virgin entering these two categories, I think they&#39;d find it fairly easy to make both the above brands feel old, closed and stale. This isn&#39;t to take anything away from either of these companies as they are clearly successful.</p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good point, the purpose of a brand hasn&#039;t changed, it&#039;s just that everything about how you go about doing it has</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s a good point, the purpose of a brand hasn&#39;t changed, it&#39;s just that everything about how you go about doing it has</p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-2534</link>
		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting! I agree, there are lots of companies who have changed very little about how they operate but who have made great strides in becoming more open and collaborative from a branding standpoint. I think some of the ones you mention, Harley, Ernst &amp; Young, haven&#039;t really been faced with a disruptive competitor in their category that has fully embraced the idea of being a modern brand in the Zappos/Method kind of way. Therefore, they appear to be the most modern of the pack and can achieve success without making really fundamental changes. I think that they are vulnerable to a new entrant who decides to do things differently. Think about Virgin entering these two categories, I think they&#039;d find it fairly easy to make both the above brands feel old, closed and stale. This isn&#039;t to take anything away from either of these companies as they are clearly successful. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting! I agree, there are lots of companies who have changed very little about how they operate but who have made great strides in becoming more open and collaborative from a branding standpoint. I think some of the ones you mention, Harley, Ernst &amp; Young, haven&#8217;t really been faced with a disruptive competitor in their category that has fully embraced the idea of being a modern brand in the Zappos/Method kind of way. Therefore, they appear to be the most modern of the pack and can achieve success without making really fundamental changes. I think that they are vulnerable to a new entrant who decides to do things differently. Think about Virgin entering these two categories, I think they&#8217;d find it fairly easy to make both the above brands feel old, closed and stale. This isn&#8217;t to take anything away from either of these companies as they are clearly successful.</p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-2533</link>
		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good point, the purpose of a brand hasn&#039;t changed, it&#039;s just that everything about how you go about doing it has</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good point, the purpose of a brand hasn&#8217;t changed, it&#8217;s just that everything about how you go about doing it has</p>
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		<title>By: edwardboches</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>edwardboches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 06:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian:&lt;br&gt;Your classic modern slide is the best one in the deck.  All by itself it offers some basic guidelines as to how a brand should behave and think.  Brands may never again control the conversation but they can still determine their behavior and their culture.  It&#039;s astonishing how few even have a culture.  The great ones, SJC, Four Seasons, Nike, Apple are obvious.  Their products, employee behavior and most of their customer comments and reaction reflect the brand ideals.  In many cases the products and services aren&#039;t that different from what they&#039;ve been in the past.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What&#039;s changed is that consumers now have a new and different way of letting those brands into their lives.  They have new, free, open relationship to content, media and to each other and that lets them not only participate but define, or at least influence, the brand experience.   The best get it.  Harley Davidson has united its consumers and let them be a big part of the dialog.  Yet the product hasn&#039;t really changed.  Ernst and Young is still in the business of grooming future leaders.  They&#039;ve just made it far more interactive.   Even WalMart with its Moms is responding.  All of these brands believe in what I call &quot;return on generosity.&quot;  They not only give of their products and service and technology, they give consumers a chance to be part of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My favorite quote that I use to open all my presentations comes from a young college student I met on Twitter.  It&#039;s this:  &quot;If you don&#039;t create a community for us we will create one ourselves.&quot;  This goes for Moms, runners, gadget enthusiasts.  It&#039;s a  simple way of saying &quot;your brand belongs to us, too.&quot;  If a company understands that basic sentiment they&#039;ll figure out what to do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Edward Boches</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian:<br />Your classic modern slide is the best one in the deck.  All by itself it offers some basic guidelines as to how a brand should behave and think.  Brands may never again control the conversation but they can still determine their behavior and their culture.  It&#39;s astonishing how few even have a culture.  The great ones, SJC, Four Seasons, Nike, Apple are obvious.  Their products, employee behavior and most of their customer comments and reaction reflect the brand ideals.  In many cases the products and services aren&#39;t that different from what they&#39;ve been in the past.  </p>
<p>What&#39;s changed is that consumers now have a new and different way of letting those brands into their lives.  They have new, free, open relationship to content, media and to each other and that lets them not only participate but define, or at least influence, the brand experience.   The best get it.  Harley Davidson has united its consumers and let them be a big part of the dialog.  Yet the product hasn&#39;t really changed.  Ernst and Young is still in the business of grooming future leaders.  They&#39;ve just made it far more interactive.   Even WalMart with its Moms is responding.  All of these brands believe in what I call &#8220;return on generosity.&#8221;  They not only give of their products and service and technology, they give consumers a chance to be part of it.</p>
<p>My favorite quote that I use to open all my presentations comes from a young college student I met on Twitter.  It&#39;s this:  &#8220;If you don&#39;t create a community for us we will create one ourselves.&#8221;  This goes for Moms, runners, gadget enthusiasts.  It&#39;s a  simple way of saying &#8220;your brand belongs to us, too.&#8221;  If a company understands that basic sentiment they&#39;ll figure out what to do.</p>
<p>Edward Boches</p>
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		<title>By: murraygh</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>murraygh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>adrian, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;as usual i thought this was a very clear and concise point of view. as you&#039;ve said before companies can&#039;t hide behind advertising anymore because so much information is available and people can share and discuss freely - and now than can, they do. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i do think that  brands still need to develop relationships and i think the concept of relationships is even more valuable than ever. what&#039;s changed is that the way for brands to develop and sustain a relationship has changed.  i must admit though that i still love a good ad, it&#039;s just that i rarely see one.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adrian, </p>
<p>as usual i thought this was a very clear and concise point of view. as you&#39;ve said before companies can&#39;t hide behind advertising anymore because so much information is available and people can share and discuss freely &#8211; and now than can, they do. </p>
<p>i do think that  brands still need to develop relationships and i think the concept of relationships is even more valuable than ever. what&#39;s changed is that the way for brands to develop and sustain a relationship has changed.  i must admit though that i still love a good ad, it&#39;s just that i rarely see one.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/mastering-new-modes-draft/#comment-923</link>
		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Niko, I agree that chart has definitely made it in to the revised version of the presentation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In terms of binary - I know what you mean. Typically I don&#039;t like doing the black v. white thing but in this case I do believe that the way you build modern brands is so completely opposite from the way you build traditional or classic brands that it&#039;s justified. I&#039;m not sure that advising people to blend these does them a service - I think there&#039;s a lot of traditional branding thinking that absolutely needs to be jettisoned because it&#039;s worse than unhelpful, it&#039;s actually damaging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Niko, I agree that chart has definitely made it in to the revised version of the presentation.</p>
<p>In terms of binary &#8211; I know what you mean. Typically I don&#39;t like doing the black v. white thing but in this case I do believe that the way you build modern brands is so completely opposite from the way you build traditional or classic brands that it&#39;s justified. I&#39;m not sure that advising people to blend these does them a service &#8211; I think there&#39;s a lot of traditional branding thinking that absolutely needs to be jettisoned because it&#39;s worse than unhelpful, it&#39;s actually damaging.</p>
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