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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19944</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: calvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>calvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lab coats</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19885</link>
		<dc:creator>Lab coats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft and Apple are archtypes, but Gap in the day had some of the same power of pure explorer brands. Gap sold you beautiful elements like jeans and tee shirts, which you then could customize in cool ways with your stuff---a suit jacket or a scarf. You could become like one of the &quot;persons of distinction&quot; as they called their celebrity campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft and Apple are archtypes, but Gap in the day had some of the same power of pure explorer brands. Gap sold you beautiful elements like jeans and tee shirts, which you then could customize in cool ways with your stuff&#8212;a suit jacket or a scarf. You could become like one of the &#8220;persons of distinction&#8221; as they called their celebrity campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Lachlan</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19838</link>
		<dc:creator>Lachlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... reminds me of a funny critique of &#039;disruption&#039; (tbwa) and much of HHCL&#039;s use of semiotics in the 1990&#039;s both of whom used an interesting form of  one-size-fits-all strategy, which was to say you find the category codes and then break them all. No matter who you are, or your situation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve always agreed that for some brands the right thing is to nail the codes better and more appealingly than anyone else, not to ignore or break them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Could even argue that some big salient, old-school brand films like Sony Balls, pretty much do exactly that... Colour, like no other, wasnt new news, just a mass message greatly out-executed vs competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; reminds me of a funny critique of &#39;disruption&#39; (tbwa) and much of HHCL&#39;s use of semiotics in the 1990&#39;s both of whom used an interesting form of  one-size-fits-all strategy, which was to say you find the category codes and then break them all. No matter who you are, or your situation.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve always agreed that for some brands the right thing is to nail the codes better and more appealingly than anyone else, not to ignore or break them.</p>
<p>Could even argue that some big salient, old-school brand films like Sony Balls, pretty much do exactly that&#8230; Colour, like no other, wasnt new news, just a mass message greatly out-executed vs competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Lachlan</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19837</link>
		<dc:creator>Lachlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you just rediscovered Leo Burnet / JWT / DDB et al. circa 1950-2000 ;0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you just rediscovered Leo Burnet / JWT / DDB et al. circa 1950-2000 ;0)</p>
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		<title>By: lisha</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19835</link>
		<dc:creator>lisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea</description>
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		<title>By: Kortbloggat/digitalpr.se-31 May 2009 &#8212; Niclas Strandh digitalPR, creative planning och sociala mediestrategier</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19832</link>
		<dc:creator>Kortbloggat/digitalpr.se-31 May 2009 &#8212; Niclas Strandh digitalPR, creative planning och sociala mediestrategier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 20:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ideas of scale versus ideas of disruption. &#124; From The Head Of Zeus Jones [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sohan</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19826</link>
		<dc:creator>Sohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 14:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sohan</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19825</link>
		<dc:creator>Sohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 14:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19820</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 02:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s probably true, although the wave/wavelet/blip terminology at least might take some getting used to. Maybe that&#039;s why they announced it all now, so we&#039;ll be used to it once it becomes available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s probably true, although the wave/wavelet/blip terminology at least might take some getting used to. Maybe that&#39;s why they announced it all now, so we&#39;ll be used to it once it becomes available.</p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19818</link>
		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes will be very interesting to see what happens, I know I want it NOW. However, the interesting question to ask is whether this is really a disruption or an evolution of a number of different things we have already. It&#039;s not completely new, but the idea of doing it all in one place is. I think Google isn&#039;t really an innovator in the classic sense, they&#039;re much more about making new stuff useful to everyone.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/diffusion-confusion/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/diffusion-co...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes will be very interesting to see what happens, I know I want it NOW. However, the interesting question to ask is whether this is really a disruption or an evolution of a number of different things we have already. It&#39;s not completely new, but the idea of doing it all in one place is. I think Google isn&#39;t really an innovator in the classic sense, they&#39;re much more about making new stuff useful to everyone.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/diffusion-confusion/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/diffusion-co.." rel="nofollow">http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/diffusion-co..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19817</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting in the context of Google Wave. Ad Age points out that it needs scale to be effective (&lt;a href=&quot;http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=136955&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=136955&lt;/a&gt;), but it&#039;s also definitely disruptive to our accustomed behavior of communicating.  I think it will succeed first with the creative and technology communities using it internally, and then spread out similar to Twitter&#039;s growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting in the context of Google Wave. Ad Age points out that it needs scale to be effective (<a href="http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=136955" rel="nofollow">http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=136955</a>), but it&#39;s also definitely disruptive to our accustomed behavior of communicating.  I think it will succeed first with the creative and technology communities using it internally, and then spread out similar to Twitter&#39;s growth.</p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19778</link>
		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 19:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tim,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great observation about the mismatch between mass media and niche ideas - I think this is probably a fairly common mistake.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;ve definitely got me thinking though, there&#039;s more going on in your question than I can figure out right now. I think there may be another post here. Rogers adoption model and communications theory tell you to do different things. There&#039;s something interesting in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim,</p>
<p>Great observation about the mismatch between mass media and niche ideas &#8211; I think this is probably a fairly common mistake.</p>
<p>You&#39;ve definitely got me thinking though, there&#39;s more going on in your question than I can figure out right now. I think there may be another post here. Rogers adoption model and communications theory tell you to do different things. There&#39;s something interesting in that.</p>
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		<title>By: tbrunelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbrunelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 08:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, another great post, Adrian! I wish my mom jumped into commentary on my blog.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wonder how media plays a role in this discussion. You note, &quot;The skills and ideas that grab small groups of people are very different from the skills and ideas that grab large numbers of people.&quot; The same could be said of media venues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To move mass quantities of goods, one might presume you need mass quantities of impressions. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yet it seems that we&#039;re moving, in some instances, towards a desire for quality or intimacy or strict relevancy of communication--which contradicts the old &quot;reach/frequency&quot; model. Is there a contradiction in developing &quot;innovative&quot; ideas then displaying them in mass media? Is that the crux of BK and the post cited by Geoff Northcott?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks, as always, for the brilliant insights.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, another great post, Adrian! I wish my mom jumped into commentary on my blog.</p>
<p>I wonder how media plays a role in this discussion. You note, &#8220;The skills and ideas that grab small groups of people are very different from the skills and ideas that grab large numbers of people.&#8221; The same could be said of media venues.</p>
<p>To move mass quantities of goods, one might presume you need mass quantities of impressions. </p>
<p>Yet it seems that we&#39;re moving, in some instances, towards a desire for quality or intimacy or strict relevancy of communication&#8211;which contradicts the old &#8220;reach/frequency&#8221; model. Is there a contradiction in developing &#8220;innovative&#8221; ideas then displaying them in mass media? Is that the crux of BK and the post cited by Geoff Northcott?</p>
<p>Thanks, as always, for the brilliant insights.</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: F. Andy Seidl</title>
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		<dc:creator>F. Andy Seidl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 04:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This strikes me as very reminiscent of the type of problem Geoffrey Moore tackled in &quot;Crossing the Chasm&quot; (and a number of sequels).&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Moore focused on selling high-tech products to mainstream customers, but the basic idea--that what appeals withing one segment (of the curve) may not appeal in the next and that a marketer should focus on one segment at a time--seems like it applies here, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This strikes me as very reminiscent of the type of problem Geoffrey Moore tackled in &#8220;Crossing the Chasm&#8221; (and a number of sequels).<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm</a></p>
<p>Moore focused on selling high-tech products to mainstream customers, but the basic idea&#8211;that what appeals withing one segment (of the curve) may not appeal in the next and that a marketer should focus on one segment at a time&#8211;seems like it applies here, too.</p>
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		<title>By: taulpaul</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19770</link>
		<dc:creator>taulpaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 21:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are &quot;BIG ideas&quot; big because they&#039;re high burden (cost)?  Are they big because their measurable impact is high?  Do they inherently change the way we do business, or live our lives?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re onto some meme with the Ego piece.  A couple thousand years ago, marketing meant building a Pyramid to make your mark for all time.  Now it&#039;s just a brand mark refresh to say you did something for a product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are &#8220;BIG ideas&#8221; big because they&#39;re high burden (cost)?  Are they big because their measurable impact is high?  Do they inherently change the way we do business, or live our lives?</p>
<p>You&#39;re onto some meme with the Ego piece.  A couple thousand years ago, marketing meant building a Pyramid to make your mark for all time.  Now it&#39;s just a brand mark refresh to say you did something for a product.</p>
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		<title>By: André Galhardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>André Galhardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why I believe the &quot;big idea&quot; era is over. Would be much better show, let&#039;s say, 100 &quot;small ideas&quot; - and help clients implement them. If 20 survive after a period... bingo. Then we must have another 100 heady for the next &quot;innovation cicle&quot;...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, congratulations, Mrs Ho - you have a very bright son. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s why I believe the &#8220;big idea&#8221; era is over. Would be much better show, let&#39;s say, 100 &#8220;small ideas&#8221; &#8211; and help clients implement them. If 20 survive after a period&#8230; bingo. Then we must have another 100 heady for the next &#8220;innovation cicle&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW, congratulations, Mrs Ho &#8211; you have a very bright son. <img src='http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19766</link>
		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mom! (My mom everybody!),&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s a great solution a hybrid model where &quot;innovation&quot; is supplied by the buyer. I wrote about this tangentially a while ago - basically the information to create a thing and the thing itself can be separated in some instances and manufacturing can happen at point of sale. This would be a scenario where your model would be possible. In fashion, I think it&#039;s probably coming. Levis tried it in the early 90s but it was a bit before its time. I think it&#039;s probably much more feasible technically now and we&#039;re also probably more likely to want it today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/information-is-the-product-part-1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/information-...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mom! (My mom everybody!),</p>
<p>That&#39;s a great solution a hybrid model where &#8220;innovation&#8221; is supplied by the buyer. I wrote about this tangentially a while ago &#8211; basically the information to create a thing and the thing itself can be separated in some instances and manufacturing can happen at point of sale. This would be a scenario where your model would be possible. In fashion, I think it&#39;s probably coming. Levis tried it in the early 90s but it was a bit before its time. I think it&#39;s probably much more feasible technically now and we&#39;re also probably more likely to want it today.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/information-is-the-product-part-1/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/information-.." rel="nofollow">http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/information-..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: maewan ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>maewan ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting problem, but I have often wondered why clothes , for example, aren&#039;t designed to be customised, which should be really easy to do nowadays. I&#039;ve walked away from clothes that are almost right  but not quite. This could bridge the gap  somewhat between selling lots and designing for innovation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting problem, but I have often wondered why clothes , for example, aren&#39;t designed to be customised, which should be really easy to do nowadays. I&#39;ve walked away from clothes that are almost right  but not quite. This could bridge the gap  somewhat between selling lots and designing for innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 19:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great links, especially the BK/McDonalds one which sort of proves my point ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But you do have a great point - we need to be aware of all segments and target parts of our business to different audiences otherwise we run the risk of losing relevance among opinion leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great links, especially the BK/McDonalds one which sort of proves my point <img src='http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But you do have a great point &#8211; we need to be aware of all segments and target parts of our business to different audiences otherwise we run the risk of losing relevance among opinion leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 19:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, good point, I think we do look to brands to embody attributes we don&#039;t have and to lead us to some extent. I&#039;m not sure, though, that a brand can lead me into being someone that I&#039;m not - I&#039;m not sure a brand can make me more adventurous or brave than I am, but I could be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, good point, I think we do look to brands to embody attributes we don&#39;t have and to lead us to some extent. I&#39;m not sure, though, that a brand can lead me into being someone that I&#39;m not &#8211; I&#39;m not sure a brand can make me more adventurous or brave than I am, but I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is true but being perceived as innovative can be off-putting to mainstream people. I remember doing research for Sony where we talked to people about Apple. There was a definite sense that Apple is cool, &quot;but not really for me.&quot; Microsoft is trying to play on this right now. In terms of the influence model working through the different segments, you should read Moore&#039;s classic, Crossing the Chasm. While he wrote about technology, I think his principles are applicable to many categories: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is true but being perceived as innovative can be off-putting to mainstream people. I remember doing research for Sony where we talked to people about Apple. There was a definite sense that Apple is cool, &#8220;but not really for me.&#8221; Microsoft is trying to play on this right now. In terms of the influence model working through the different segments, you should read Moore&#39;s classic, Crossing the Chasm. While he wrote about technology, I think his principles are applicable to many categories: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm</a></p>
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		<title>By: adrianho</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19760</link>
		<dc:creator>adrianho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new category just for ego? :D</description>
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		<title>By: Geoff Northcott</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/ideas-of-scale-versus-ideas-of-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-19754</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Northcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 03:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adrian,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interesting post as always. I’d definitely agree that often priorities can get skewed, and we’d do very well as an industry to start celebrating tangible results at least as much as we celebrate brilliant creative that never actually ran.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However I think there’s still a place for disruptive or influencer-targeted activity that won’t necessarily scale, yet. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One reason is on that adoption scale above, technologies and trends that become mainstream start off as niche. Companies that innovate around new technologies and platforms like say RFID, mobile applications, or Facebook, may not see dollar-for-dollar results in the next quarter, but the learnings they gain from their exploring may well provide the foundation for true business innovations in the years that come. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Brands that only focus on what reaches the mass now may find themselves on the back foot in two years time when the masses have moved on, and their competitors or challenger brands in the space have all the domain experience as well as an pre-installed influencer audience base. We’re in an age where a platform like Facebook can reach 225 million users in three years, where mobile phones are becoming portable computing devices with all the inherent possibilities that come with that, where kids are growing up with digitally-enabled toys and expect everything to be connected. The pace of change is still accelerating, and ideas are becoming mass quicker than ever. Brands need to be thinking about where things are heading and trying things with the early adopters now that will be ready to scale when the moment arrives, not years too late.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I think in *some* circumstances early adopter and influencer buzz can have a halo effect that reaches and influences a mass audience. Google and Red Bull are examples of brands who do marketing that seems like it’d have negligible ROI when looked at in isolation, but en masse the activity creates significant perceived energy and an image around the brand that radiates strongly enough for the masses to pick it up and be influenced by it. And the fact that the chatter around the brand is coming from influencers rather than from the brand itself does give that activity a disproportionate weight with the mass audience.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However I think overall your point is spot on and the balance is  skewed, but had to weigh in on the devil’s advocate side!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also here are a few posts I&#039;ve seen recently that I thought were related and might be of interest:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Planning Lab blog discussion on awards-driven creatitvity vs results driven creativity: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/rKHit&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/rKHit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Modern Marketing post on breaking the campaign mentality. Key point for me here is the link back to client-side priorities: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/13t9Fk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/13t9Fk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;eConsultancy post on Burger King&#039;s marketing garnering all the attention and PR but sales dropping vs McDonald&#039;s: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/F8dkY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/F8dkY&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,&lt;br&gt;Geoff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adrian,</p>
<p>Interesting post as always. I’d definitely agree that often priorities can get skewed, and we’d do very well as an industry to start celebrating tangible results at least as much as we celebrate brilliant creative that never actually ran.</p>
<p>However I think there’s still a place for disruptive or influencer-targeted activity that won’t necessarily scale, yet. </p>
<p>One reason is on that adoption scale above, technologies and trends that become mainstream start off as niche. Companies that innovate around new technologies and platforms like say RFID, mobile applications, or Facebook, may not see dollar-for-dollar results in the next quarter, but the learnings they gain from their exploring may well provide the foundation for true business innovations in the years that come. </p>
<p>Brands that only focus on what reaches the mass now may find themselves on the back foot in two years time when the masses have moved on, and their competitors or challenger brands in the space have all the domain experience as well as an pre-installed influencer audience base. We’re in an age where a platform like Facebook can reach 225 million users in three years, where mobile phones are becoming portable computing devices with all the inherent possibilities that come with that, where kids are growing up with digitally-enabled toys and expect everything to be connected. The pace of change is still accelerating, and ideas are becoming mass quicker than ever. Brands need to be thinking about where things are heading and trying things with the early adopters now that will be ready to scale when the moment arrives, not years too late.</p>
<p>Also, I think in *some* circumstances early adopter and influencer buzz can have a halo effect that reaches and influences a mass audience. Google and Red Bull are examples of brands who do marketing that seems like it’d have negligible ROI when looked at in isolation, but en masse the activity creates significant perceived energy and an image around the brand that radiates strongly enough for the masses to pick it up and be influenced by it. And the fact that the chatter around the brand is coming from influencers rather than from the brand itself does give that activity a disproportionate weight with the mass audience.</p>
<p>However I think overall your point is spot on and the balance is  skewed, but had to weigh in on the devil’s advocate side!</p>
<p>Also here are a few posts I&#39;ve seen recently that I thought were related and might be of interest:</p>
<p>Planning Lab blog discussion on awards-driven creatitvity vs results driven creativity: <a href="http://bit.ly/rKHit" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/rKHit</a></p>
<p>Modern Marketing post on breaking the campaign mentality. Key point for me here is the link back to client-side priorities: <a href="http://bit.ly/13t9Fk" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/13t9Fk</a></p>
<p>eConsultancy post on Burger King&#39;s marketing garnering all the attention and PR but sales dropping vs McDonald&#39;s: <a href="http://bit.ly/F8dkY" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/F8dkY</a></p>
<p>Cheers,<br />Geoff</p>
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		<title>By: rohnjaymiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>rohnjaymiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about &quot;explorer&quot; brands---companies that give you tools to learn and take control of your world in powerful ways.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Microsoft and Apple are archtypes, but Gap in the day had some of the same power of pure explorer brands.    Gap sold you beautiful elements like jeans and tee shirts, which you then could customize in cool ways with your stuff---a suit jacket or a scarf.   You could become like one of the  &quot;persons of distinction&quot; as they called their celebrity campaign.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Explorer brands could also include Target,  Home Depot, and AT&amp;T.  These are brands that not only let you do things,  but empower you to do them.  I think the concept of an explorer brand is one model for a large consumer company to partner with the consumer in an active way so they aren&#039;t invisible,  but do so by putting the customer  in charge.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I remember when I moved into my first apartment by myself,  I went shopping at Room + Board.   They were kind of the Ikea of the day.   They didn&#039;t sell me stuff--they sparked ideas in my head.  Great ideas came to me because of them.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re right about the challenge of understanding the client&#039;s point of view.  Someone once told me that advertising is about making things different, strategic consulting is about making things better.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think we need to find out how to do both.  Thanks for a great post, as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve been thinking about &#8220;explorer&#8221; brands&#8212;companies that give you tools to learn and take control of your world in powerful ways.  </p>
<p>Microsoft and Apple are archtypes, but Gap in the day had some of the same power of pure explorer brands.    Gap sold you beautiful elements like jeans and tee shirts, which you then could customize in cool ways with your stuff&#8212;a suit jacket or a scarf.   You could become like one of the  &#8220;persons of distinction&#8221; as they called their celebrity campaign.  </p>
<p>Explorer brands could also include Target,  Home Depot, and AT&#038;T.  These are brands that not only let you do things,  but empower you to do them.  I think the concept of an explorer brand is one model for a large consumer company to partner with the consumer in an active way so they aren&#39;t invisible,  but do so by putting the customer  in charge.  </p>
<p>I remember when I moved into my first apartment by myself,  I went shopping at Room + Board.   They were kind of the Ikea of the day.   They didn&#39;t sell me stuff&#8211;they sparked ideas in my head.  Great ideas came to me because of them.  </p>
<p>You&#39;re right about the challenge of understanding the client&#39;s point of view.  Someone once told me that advertising is about making things different, strategic consulting is about making things better.  </p>
<p>I think we need to find out how to do both.  Thanks for a great post, as always.</p>
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