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		<title>By: &#124; From The Head Of Zeus Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#124; From The Head Of Zeus Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ironic and also sad then that, in today&#8217;s world where we are looking, more than ever before, to be connected, to create opportunities to push boundaries further out, Microsoft has resorted to highlighting the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Time for a restart?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time for a restart?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we all have on each other and the trust it takes to get through the day. Adrian posted a piece on interconnectedness that is still rattling around in my noggin. Umair has penned a post or two on the need for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we all have on each other and the trust it takes to get through the day. Adrian posted a piece on interconnectedness that is still rattling around in my noggin. Umair has penned a post or two on the need for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is it Interconnectedness or Selfish Altruism?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is it Interconnectedness or Selfish Altruism?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] excellent post today on interconnectedness as the motivator for this decade makes a lot of sense. As he points out, there are countless [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] excellent post today on interconnectedness as the motivator for this decade makes a lot of sense. As he points out, there are countless [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chicken Coops and Campaigns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicken Coops and Campaigns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fascinating. His words got me thinking about how these lessons overlap nicely with the notion of interconnectedness or selfless [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scientific Extraordinaire</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2008/more-on-the-theme-of-the-decade-interconnectedness/comment-page-1/#comment-12674</link>
		<dc:creator>Scientific Extraordinaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More on the theme of the decade - interconnectedness? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chicken Coops and Campaigns &#171; Boutique Brand Bloviating</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2008/more-on-the-theme-of-the-decade-interconnectedness/comment-page-1/#comment-11316</link>
		<dc:creator>Chicken Coops and Campaigns &#171; Boutique Brand Bloviating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fascinating. His words got me thinking about how these lessons overlap nicely with the notion of interconnectedness or selfless [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is it Interconnectedness or Selfish Altruism? &#171; Boutique Brand Bloviating</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2008/more-on-the-theme-of-the-decade-interconnectedness/comment-page-1/#comment-11305</link>
		<dc:creator>Is it Interconnectedness or Selfish Altruism? &#171; Boutique Brand Bloviating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] excellent post today on interconnectedness as the motivator for this decade makes a lot of sense. As he points out, there are countless [...]</description>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you sound like Biden ;D

But seriously, how can you say motives aren&#039;t important? I know you subscribe to the same beliefs about brands that I do. We advise our clients on unifying their various actions with core beliefs, with a coherent view on the world. Aren&#039;t those, in essence, motives?

We use motives to judge one auto manufacturers green initiatives against another&#039;s. We use motives to question BP/Exxon&#039;s commitment to renewable energy. 

I do agree that immediate feedback on your bad actions is more effective in the long term, but I think we also hope our children grow up in a world where caring about one another is a conscious thing rather than simply a byproduct of connected economies and lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you sound like Biden ;D</p>
<p>But seriously, how can you say motives aren&#8217;t important? I know you subscribe to the same beliefs about brands that I do. We advise our clients on unifying their various actions with core beliefs, with a coherent view on the world. Aren&#8217;t those, in essence, motives?</p>
<p>We use motives to judge one auto manufacturers green initiatives against another&#8217;s. We use motives to question BP/Exxon&#8217;s commitment to renewable energy. </p>
<p>I do agree that immediate feedback on your bad actions is more effective in the long term, but I think we also hope our children grow up in a world where caring about one another is a conscious thing rather than simply a byproduct of connected economies and lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late to the game!  Why are we arguing over motivations?  If I could ever hope for an opening to jab Adrian, this is it.  Liberals seem to care a great deal about motivations.  As opposed to outcome or effect.  Great social experiments launched by the left, regardless of outcome, are seen as noble endeavors, because their &quot;heart&quot; was in the tight place.  Stalin, it could be argued, was altruistic.  No, I am not equating Adrian to Stalin, and yes, the right has it&#039;s share of grotesque attrocities over time.  Arrogant idealogy is a different topic.  And dammit, Adrian, I am not a Republican! (glove thrown in your direction)  My point is that we seem to be seeking a narrative that ascribes more noble motives to humans who make good judgements that tend to be self-serving.  While I have seen and read of incredibly selfless acts, and would acknowledge that &quot;altrusim&quot; is a tremendously attractive ideal, I think that if most people simply realized that crapping on other people generated negative outcomes for themselves, we would all be better off.  Cooperation is not a bad model.  I have been very attracted to behavioral economists who state that people, given the proper incentives, generally do the right thing.  Altrusim or not, we are all connected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late to the game!  Why are we arguing over motivations?  If I could ever hope for an opening to jab Adrian, this is it.  Liberals seem to care a great deal about motivations.  As opposed to outcome or effect.  Great social experiments launched by the left, regardless of outcome, are seen as noble endeavors, because their &#8220;heart&#8221; was in the tight place.  Stalin, it could be argued, was altruistic.  No, I am not equating Adrian to Stalin, and yes, the right has it&#8217;s share of grotesque attrocities over time.  Arrogant idealogy is a different topic.  And dammit, Adrian, I am not a Republican! (glove thrown in your direction)  My point is that we seem to be seeking a narrative that ascribes more noble motives to humans who make good judgements that tend to be self-serving.  While I have seen and read of incredibly selfless acts, and would acknowledge that &#8220;altrusim&#8221; is a tremendously attractive ideal, I think that if most people simply realized that crapping on other people generated negative outcomes for themselves, we would all be better off.  Cooperation is not a bad model.  I have been very attracted to behavioral economists who state that people, given the proper incentives, generally do the right thing.  Altrusim or not, we are all connected.</p>
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		<title>By: Prashant Kaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prashant Kaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Adrian! I agree with you.  I look back at what I studied in Anthropology as an undergrad and it reinforces what I see today.  Humans are social beings. Interconnectedness is part and parcel of who we are what differentiates us from other species. Even when at odds we thrive.  The saying goes -- genes flow where armies go - and thus were borne new people, communities, geographical boundaries and identities.

Coming together to work on common goals (even if the reason is competition) can drive us to great heights.  We raced against the Russians to put a man on the moon, but there was commitment from so many people, politicians, scientists to make that happen.

James Deetz wrote a formidable book called &quot;In Small Things Forgotten&quot; that talks about the rise of individualism in America through the industrial revolution.  I think the current trend we are seeing will lead towards another social revolution in the next few years.

If we can put away some of the unhealthy fights (for resources such as oil or peak water?) and replace it with healthy competition towards some meaningful goals the rest of the world can catch up and the revolution will be global!  So I&#039;m a dreamer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Adrian! I agree with you.  I look back at what I studied in Anthropology as an undergrad and it reinforces what I see today.  Humans are social beings. Interconnectedness is part and parcel of who we are what differentiates us from other species. Even when at odds we thrive.  The saying goes &#8212; genes flow where armies go &#8211; and thus were borne new people, communities, geographical boundaries and identities.</p>
<p>Coming together to work on common goals (even if the reason is competition) can drive us to great heights.  We raced against the Russians to put a man on the moon, but there was commitment from so many people, politicians, scientists to make that happen.</p>
<p>James Deetz wrote a formidable book called &#8220;In Small Things Forgotten&#8221; that talks about the rise of individualism in America through the industrial revolution.  I think the current trend we are seeing will lead towards another social revolution in the next few years.</p>
<p>If we can put away some of the unhealthy fights (for resources such as oil or peak water?) and replace it with healthy competition towards some meaningful goals the rest of the world can catch up and the revolution will be global!  So I&#8217;m a dreamer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Yarbrough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Yarbrough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@adrian

I agree. Selfish altruism feels very Republican, and I found it an interesting coincidence that Castellanos planted that seed in my brain a few months ago. Funny thing is that seed didn&#039;t really sprout until your posts of late. In fact, you inspired me to comment on this in my blog (http://jakeybro.blogspot.com) where I had some additional thoughts as well.  

With regard to Niko&#039;s statement, I hope that selfish altruism is not leading to nationalism/xenophobia. In my opinion, that would be unfortunate.

I am of the belief (wide-eyed hope) that the more altruistic version of interconnectedness is what we&#039;re seeing.

P.S. The theme of interconnectedness came up on NPR this morning in a profile of who Obama and McCain both cite as their literary hero -- Robert Jordan from Hemingway&#039;s For Whom The Bell Tolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@adrian</p>
<p>I agree. Selfish altruism feels very Republican, and I found it an interesting coincidence that Castellanos planted that seed in my brain a few months ago. Funny thing is that seed didn&#8217;t really sprout until your posts of late. In fact, you inspired me to comment on this in my blog (<a href="http://jakeybro.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://jakeybro.blogspot.com</a>) where I had some additional thoughts as well.  </p>
<p>With regard to Niko&#8217;s statement, I hope that selfish altruism is not leading to nationalism/xenophobia. In my opinion, that would be unfortunate.</p>
<p>I am of the belief (wide-eyed hope) that the more altruistic version of interconnectedness is what we&#8217;re seeing.</p>
<p>P.S. The theme of interconnectedness came up on NPR this morning in a profile of who Obama and McCain both cite as their literary hero &#8212; Robert Jordan from Hemingway&#8217;s For Whom The Bell Tolls.</p>
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		<title>By: niko</title>
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		<dc:creator>niko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interconnectedness yes, but nationalisme seems to be taking a shot at the title again. 

I wonder if this blurring of the lines between us/them is strictly a western/ideological related phenom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interconnectedness yes, but nationalisme seems to be taking a shot at the title again. </p>
<p>I wonder if this blurring of the lines between us/them is strictly a western/ideological related phenom?</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Selfish altruism feels like a very Republican world-view. While I think the behaviour it would generate might be indistinguishable from a belief in interconnectedness, the motivations are very different to me. Interconnectedness, to me, implies that we start to blur the lines between you and me, us and them. Selfish altruism is helping with the explicit goal of improving ones own situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selfish altruism feels like a very Republican world-view. While I think the behaviour it would generate might be indistinguishable from a belief in interconnectedness, the motivations are very different to me. Interconnectedness, to me, implies that we start to blur the lines between you and me, us and them. Selfish altruism is helping with the explicit goal of improving ones own situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Yarbrough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Yarbrough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian,

Your perspective is, as always, extremely thought-provoking. While at this point, I can only contribute yet another example along this theme of interconnectedness, it comes from an unexpected source. 

At the 4As Planning Conference, Alex Castellanos (a republican campaign strategist for Mitt Romney) spoke of his belief that we will enter an era of &quot;selfish altruism&quot; -- with overt echoes of the writings of Ayn Rand.

He punctuated this prediction with an analogy of building a house in the days of the US&#039;s western expansion. You helped your neighbor raise the walls of his barn with the implicit understanding that he would help you with your project. You were not so concerned with assisting out of benevolence, but you were doing it as a quid pro quo.

That is interconnectedness from another perspective. 

What do you think?

Jake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian,</p>
<p>Your perspective is, as always, extremely thought-provoking. While at this point, I can only contribute yet another example along this theme of interconnectedness, it comes from an unexpected source. </p>
<p>At the 4As Planning Conference, Alex Castellanos (a republican campaign strategist for Mitt Romney) spoke of his belief that we will enter an era of &#8220;selfish altruism&#8221; &#8212; with overt echoes of the writings of Ayn Rand.</p>
<p>He punctuated this prediction with an analogy of building a house in the days of the US&#8217;s western expansion. You helped your neighbor raise the walls of his barn with the implicit understanding that he would help you with your project. You were not so concerned with assisting out of benevolence, but you were doing it as a quid pro quo.</p>
<p>That is interconnectedness from another perspective. </p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>Jake</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re very right about the theme here. It&#039;s funny - I just posted something which asked whether the financial crisis would  accentuate the   trend (as trust in government erodes further) or make us appreciate centralized figures more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re very right about the theme here. It&#8217;s funny &#8211; I just posted something which asked whether the financial crisis would  accentuate the   trend (as trust in government erodes further) or make us appreciate centralized figures more</p>
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