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	<title>Comments on: More on new targeting models.</title>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2008/more-on-new-targeting-models/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Helge, just ordered the book!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I agree, activity based targeting is the future which is why I think that the mobile phone will be the dominant advertising platform in the future. Am writing about this today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Helge, just ordered the book!</p>
<p>I agree, activity based targeting is the future which is why I think that the mobile phone will be the dominant advertising platform in the future. Am writing about this today.</p>
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		<title>By: Helge Tennø</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helge Tennø</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might just be that you are the first one to give it that name? :o) &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Can it be that the traditional Target Group thinking leads us on a more obvious path of what Stephen King defined as “Old Science” in his article Advertising Art or Science? And what we need to do is remove ourselves from this a bit to scientific and linear approach on how to create solutions and become more imaginative. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course we need knowledge and insight in order to create attractive advertising, but the Target Group approach might be a bit to old-school academic? We might end up looking for solutions in all the wrong places. Places that don’t really exit outside our research.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;OK, I’m rambling here :o) I’ll try to gather my thoughts and repost :o)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would of course recommend having a look at what Indi Young is doing with her Mental Models. It’s a bit of area, but she has some great insights.&lt;br/&gt;http://www.rosenfeldmedia.com/books/mental-models/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might just be that you are the first one to give it that name? :o) </p>
<p>Can it be that the traditional Target Group thinking leads us on a more obvious path of what Stephen King defined as “Old Science” in his article Advertising Art or Science? And what we need to do is remove ourselves from this a bit to scientific and linear approach on how to create solutions and become more imaginative. </p>
<p>Of course we need knowledge and insight in order to create attractive advertising, but the Target Group approach might be a bit to old-school academic? We might end up looking for solutions in all the wrong places. Places that don’t really exit outside our research.</p>
<p>OK, I’m rambling here :o) I’ll try to gather my thoughts and repost :o)</p>
<p>I would of course recommend having a look at what Indi Young is doing with her Mental Models. It’s a bit of area, but she has some great insights.<br /><a href="http://www.rosenfeldmedia.com/books/mental-models/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rosenfeldmedia.com/books/mental-models/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2008/more-on-new-targeting-models/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good meeting you too Charles, hope your trip is going well. Let me know if you do make it to Minneapolis, you should definitely visit.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also thanks for the tip - missed this the first time http://russelldavies.typepad.com/advertising_practitioner/2008/03/non-obvious-sur.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good meeting you too Charles, hope your trip is going well. Let me know if you do make it to Minneapolis, you should definitely visit.</p>
<p>Also thanks for the tip &#8211; missed this the first time <a href="http://russelldavies.typepad.com/advertising_practitioner/2008/03/non-obvious-sur.html" rel="nofollow">http://russelldavies.typepad.com/advertising_practitioner/2008/03/non-obvious-sur.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles Frith</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2008/more-on-new-targeting-models/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Frith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more Adrian. I&#039;ve been struggling with the whole concept of segmentation and targeting since my marketing degree. How do we segment a market that doesn&#039;t exist. How do we reach them.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interestingly one of the more interesting conversations I&#039;ve had in digital with a well respected marketeer in the States is the Non obvious data relationships that Russell posted about.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My brunch companion&#039;s assertion was that the auto industry can pretty much pick up who wants to buy a car even if they state categorically they don&#039;t. Another nail in the coffin for a lot of research. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good to catch up finally in San Fran!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more Adrian. I&#8217;ve been struggling with the whole concept of segmentation and targeting since my marketing degree. How do we segment a market that doesn&#8217;t exist. How do we reach them.</p>
<p>Interestingly one of the more interesting conversations I&#8217;ve had in digital with a well respected marketeer in the States is the Non obvious data relationships that Russell posted about.</p>
<p>My brunch companion&#8217;s assertion was that the auto industry can pretty much pick up who wants to buy a car even if they state categorically they don&#8217;t. Another nail in the coffin for a lot of research. </p>
<p>Good to catch up finally in San Fran!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Poppe</title>
		<link>http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2008/more-on-new-targeting-models/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Poppe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, lots to think about here.  I will agree with the notion that the target is a very critical point in the development of the branding idea. That said, there is also something cool about removing the target from the brief.  I don&#039;t quite know why, but I&#039;m feeling you. Perhaps it&#039;s because the idea, if right, should be bigger than the target. Bigger than the purchaser. Thoughtful stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, lots to think about here.  I will agree with the notion that the target is a very critical point in the development of the branding idea. That said, there is also something cool about removing the target from the brief.  I don&#8217;t quite know why, but I&#8217;m feeling you. Perhaps it&#8217;s because the idea, if right, should be bigger than the target. Bigger than the purchaser. Thoughtful stuff.</p>
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